This movie is a puzzle. Not an easy one. I’ll copy some good explanations from internet:
1) Were Zach and Avi real?
A. No they were not. Zach and Avi represented people Jake created in order to deal with Mr. Gold. Try to think of them as a split “Tyler Durdan”. They were never Jake’s cell mates, they never taught him about chess or cons, and that how they knew where Jake had hid all his money.

2) Who was Mr. Gold?
A. Mr. Gold was the ego Jake created in jail. Mr. Gold represents the side of Jake that wants to destroy Macha and obtain vast riches. Anything revolving around Mr. Gold’s character, such as his drugs and his assistants were paid for by Jake unknowingly.

3) What was the rare blood condition Jake had and how was he saved from it?
A. It seems that Zach and Avi could have some control over Jake’s body. I doubt the blood condition was real but maybe appeared to be real to convince Jake when he went to the doctors.

4) Why the animation?
A. This was to give you hints that what Jake was seeing were not only not real but also what elements of Jake’s subconsciousness they were.

5) What was Zach and Avi’s plan?
A. Since they were part of Jake’s subconscious, he created them to help him get rid of Mr. Gold. Since Mr. Gold would use Jake to destroy himself, Zach and Avi were created to help Jake get rid of Mr. Gold. They were also trying to show Jake how to get rid of his Mr. Gold by telling him what he’s doing is helping to take down Macha. This set up the “chess pieces”, if you will, on how to position Jake into getting rid of Mr. Gold. Remember, Avi was the persona that taught him chess and he’s the one who keeps on convincing Jake to go along with their plans. Likewise, Zach is the one in charge of setting up Macha, since he was the con artist persona.

6) Why is the movie called “Revolver”?
A. First of all I think it’s because Guy Richie wanted us to believe it was an action movie. So he lied a bit. It’s called that because of Jake being the center and he must deal with everything that “revolves” around him. This is more the BS explanation, but I think my first answer is the real correct answer.

7) Was Macha devolving his own Mr. Gold?
A. In a way, he already had a Mr. Gold. In fact, we all do. The main difference between Jake and everyone else is that his was a more defined separate identity.

Actually, Avi and Zac said they weren’t real, why shouldn’t we believe this? No person in the whole movie actually really talkes to Ave or Zac, which is quite unusual, even for spli personas in movies, which we can see in “Fight Club” for example.
In the elevator szene, Mr. Gold complained about “them” to be with Jake later then Mr. Gold himself, so who should this “them” be else than Avi and Zac?
Moreover, the fact, that two prisoners just escape prison as if they weren’t there is unlikely – plus they didn’t even plan the breakout, Jack said this, when he talked about them. And yes, they survived Mr. Gold – actually they defeated him, so why does this mean, that they have to be real, someone said this here?

We all have a Mr. Gold inside us, which is our “only” enemy in the end … The comments after the movie explained this. After understanding this klimax of the movie, it is also explained, why Mr. D developes his own “Mr. Gold”.

Are Avi and Zack angels? How did Avi and Zack escaped from prison ? They escaped by the ventilation behind the toilet (like you can see in Prison Break). How can Zack read Jakes mind ? A result of having no human contact during 7 years, is that you start to speak to yourself, so everybody can hear what you are thinking. So Avi and Zack are no angels.

Who is Mister Gold? Some facts: when Jake was being chased by the bad guys during Avi and Zacks bathtub/jaccusi scene, they didn’t shoot at Avi and Zack. Avi and Zack know about drug deal from Mister Gold. Nobody can see Mr. Gold, like nobody can see Avi. At the end Mr. Gold sends somebody to kill Macha. The person who shows up is Jake sended by Avi. So the answer is really simple. Avi (the black guy) is Mr. Gold and Zack and Jake are working for him.

Avi is playing a chess game with Macha. Avi lets Macha believe that he is winning. Mr. Gold (=Avi) ask Macha to take care personally for his drugs, and Macha is happy. Avi gives the stolen money back to Macha and Macha get somme good publicity in the newspaper, and Macha is again happy. Avi gives the stolen drugs back to Macha. And at the end when Macha kills himself, checkmate, Avi wins the chess game. At the end, Avi has all the money and all the drugs for free, and all people that wants the money and drugs back like Macha and the Chinese people, are dead.

This is the “Sane man solution”, where a person tries to rationalize the irrational.

Notice the interaction between Zach, Avi and the others, you will notice that there isn’t any direct interaction when Green isn’t here. The point where this is best shown is when he first time he enters the Paramount City building and when Doreen says “Good morning mister Green.”. One of the other points are when Avi and Zach are in the pool, and somehow nobody notices them. Also when they are doing their usual loan shark business, it is never shown exactly to whom are they looking at (the victims i mean).

Any way it all boils down to this simple point.

There are no Zach and Avi in real world. When he was in prison for seven years in solitude he came up with the ideas, somehow (was i the part of his mater plan, or just him being insane) he developed a multiple personality (In other words, he him self was the one who has devised the formula). Also he is the one who created the myth of MR.GOLD, that could be done very easy with the amount of money he had.

If you watch the movie again with this mindset you will understand the movie allot easier.

So, what about the Macha. He broke under the pressure. Why? Because of MR.GOLD, there was no escape from that situation, except suicide or “horrible punishment” by MR.GOLD

This means that he is playing chess against “himself” the whole movie.

The Ego is also one of his personalities.

So the question to ponder upon is who is the real Green.
That also can be easily seen in the movie, i will tell no more…

I see after reading this blog that some of the people here hate the film because they do not understand it. Hating because you don’t understand something is foolish. Those people are the sheep that crawl through life and are happy with the simpleness of living in the box.

I invite you to dare yourself to step out of the box and open your mind to the complexity of the world we live in. You might just enjoy things more.

This movie is about transcendence from imprisonment on a universal level. A man gets out of prison in the beginning and spends the rest of the movie getting out of his own imprisonment. It is about how most people blame everyone else when they should be pointing that blame towards themselves. People don’t like this movie because it tries to show them that they are being conned. I saw that someone almost touched on this earlier. When Green says, “the more time they invest, the less likely they are to feel that they’ve been conned…” he is talking about the universal con. The con is our egos not only making us believe we are it, but also that the material things we gain in this life actually matter. This concept is a bit hard to wrap your head around. It is the same concept as Fight Club, The Matrix, etc.

This movie does deal with Buddhism, Kabbalah, Christianity, and some Egyptian religions. Avi is short for Abraham, Jake is short for Jacob, and Zach is short for Isaac. Macha represents an oppressing Pharoe, and the whole movie they are exiling themselves from him and Gold, who controls him (a lot like a bible story I’ve heard). The whole ego theme is greatly tied in with Buddhism. Look here
http://world.std.com/~aditya/BB/Defeating%20Our%20Ego.htm
The movie involves Christianity briefly but does not ever directly acknowledge this. We are made to believe that Mr. Gold is the devil. In all actuality the devil is a tool used by the ego to make you believe it does not exist. A tool that we can blame instead of blaming ourselves, which would hurt our ego. The ego does whatever it can to survive and trick us into thinking that we are it. Also he is in a purgatory of sorts, and I will get more into depth on this in my next paragraph. The reason I believe there are so many ties to so many different religions, is that Ritchie believes that if everyone had a better understanding of this subject, no matter what religion, race or creed, if we could all become a little more universally aware of this nemisis, we could be closer to peace. We could be closer to realizing that it is our own faults that keep us from looking past everyone elses (sound like something that Jesus Christ would say to anyone?).

To the question of which city they are in: They are in a few different locations. They shoot in Hong Kong, England, and some in the states I know of for sure. They shoot a lot in a studio in front of green screen also. Ritchie does this so the viewer doesn’t get any exact location from the backgrounds and it looks like all the locations meshed together to create a whole new reality. This is a metaphor for purgatory. That’s right, our protagonist, Jake Green, is dead, and his guides, Avi and Zach, are trying to help him transcend. ]

Please, re-watch this movie. I seriously have learned so much from inner-debate and reading about this subject. If you are still having trouble understanding this concept this site helped. http://home.no.net/rrpriddy/P/9ego.html I know Ritchie was planning on making a documentary, but I have not found it. If anyone knows where to find it I would love to know. I’m pretty sure he didn’t release it to the public because of the mass rejection of the film. I guess people aren’t willing to hear that they are being conned.

You can love or hate this movie, regardless it has a lesson to teach you if you are willing to learn it.

Personally I think it’s a great movie, but I can see how it might be challenging to understand, but really, is it that hard to just say you don’t understand it and therefore can’t appreciate it? So you say that Ritchie’s lost it instead. Yeah and if you trip over a rock it’s the rock’s fault and if you fail at math, then math is just stupid. Sad to see how hostile people get when they have to face their own lack of intelligence.

anyways, fuck the critics – watch the movie for yourself and if you like it, great. if not, who cares?
I loved it. My favorite movies are the ones that leave me confused in the end.

Favorite scene – Liotta on the floor in the restaraunt.

Gotta watch it again and try to wrap my brain around it… and one last thing – how can anyone on this damn site dare to say that there’s “no deeper meaning” or “Substance” or whatever the fuck they all said. have you sat down with the writer/director and had an in depth conversation about all the metaphors and such in the movie?

1. Zack and Avi are really the two inmates that Green served next to. They really materially exist, why? they really interact with the other ‘real’ material characters. They conned their way out of prison. GR is not dumb enough to make anything sloppy like an intended imaginary character interacting with a real one. His attention to detail is too high.

2. Mr. Gold (the one with the big dining room who has a ‘real’ presence in the world, not the metaphor of the Ego in the mind) is a creation of Zack and Avi. He is, by their creation, both immaterial though very real and a metaphor. Mr. Gold the metaphor (and real enemy within) is ego, greed, anger, lust, or ‘the voice’ that pushes you to them. Zach and Avi hired Lily Walker, who bears a striking physical resemblance to a queen on a chessboard.

3. Zach and Avi perpetrate the entire plot to save Green, who they befriended in prison two years after he is released. As Green said he would die for them, apparently it was mutual dedication since they concocted this massive plot to save Green from himself, they did not want green to become Macha. In freeing Green from Macha’s fate, they also free Green from Macha himself by leading Macha to destroy himself in a war with a rival organization. (I don’t think they were Yakuza, the language didnt sound like Japanese (I live in Japan at the moment), more like Thai or Chinese.)

Everything else has been covered, and I did make a few extrapolated assumptions, but the entire film makes sense from this perspective, no holes.

This movie was brilliant, in my opinion. In the last 3 days I have started trying to become more aware of what is my ego reacting and what is my true nature. No movie has ever done something like that for me. I intend to try and stay on that path.

Sorter is my favorite character in any recent film I have seen. I love the idea of a studdering geek being a perfect shot. He did not have to draw the line somewhere and gain redemption, I still would have liked that character. (He never shoots an ‘innocent’ person that I saw, so redemption necessary in my opinion.)

The film was nothing like “Snatch” or “Lock, Stock…”, two of my other favorite films. I will definitely buy this DVD.

The only part of the film I absolutely did NOT like was the animated segments. All 3 times I watched it removed me from the movie instantly. (A Scanner Darkly used it brilliantly, this… not so much)

As a side note, I had the extra features on the DVD to help me along. There are a lot of deleted scenes that were cut for being too overt, and watching them I agree. I think had I seen it in the theater, I would have been pissed off until I had the chance to rent it and analize it. I still don’t think it would have prompted me to jump online and flame others for their opinions, however.

Its all of the above The chess game, good versed evil a con movie. It’s “5 films in one”

The plot

Avi is invented by Jake and does not exist, though within the fantasy of Jake’s mind (in prison) other characters know of his existence. The Eddies, his bother neice, Liotta, Lord John do exist in the real world and are incorperated into this ” day dream”. Jake is still in prison and has played out a fantasy to gain revenge. During this fantasy he wins and Liotta shoots himself.

mr. ritchie tried to teach you how to grasp and understand, again,

to those who have decided their own fate, i welcome you,